This little test shows a lot on the character & intention of CT. If there is any consolation in CC saga, I'm kind of glad that in many way CT is showing lots of selfishness & ungodly manner. Well, first of all, CT is lying with eyes wide open saying that they experience some sort of 'computer glitch', therefore some kind comments towards Rev. Prince & leadership in CC was not published.
I'm kind of glad as well that almost everyone who read CT would have an impression that CT is part of TTG. In simple terms, CT=TTG. I don't mean that I'm happy to see disunity in CC, but given a bit more of time, the true color of CT/TTG shows in their deeds & words. Perhaps this is a sign from God to show us who CT/TTG really are.
Don't you think so? Both side are claiming to have God backing up their act & cause. For example,1. CC belief CCC is God's vision; CT/TTG belief CCC is the promoting Freemason. 2. CC urge CC members to give to build God's temple; CT/TTG urge CC members don't give to CCC cause CCC is a temple for Freemason. 3. Majority CC members trust God & belief leadership in CC is God's ordained & God is in control of everything happen to His Calvary Church; CT/TTG trust God & belief it's God's Will to reject CC's leadership & so they are doing everything possible to accomplish their mission by having a gossiping blog, demonstration & taking legal action.
The differences on both sides are obvious, but certain people are just not sure how to discern of which to belief.
Don't trust anyone who ask you not to give to CCC or leave CC. Don't even trust me also if I tell you to continue attending CC & give faithfully. But use God's wisdom to discern the fruit of both party.
The Bible gave us a hint that if we show love, people will know we are of Jesus & we are His disciples. We all has the ability to discern who demonstrate love & who is not. The knowledge of us knowing who is the true disciples of Christ lies in our own discernment, but not because CT or anyone else gossip & told you that CC leadership does not show love. In many obvious way, CT/TTG ways of behaving is way too obvious of being very unloving & unchristian. One very obvious mistake by CT & TTG is, instead of looking at their selfishness & unloving manner, they kept making accusation & insinuations against CC's leadership. If I have 1 reason to doubt CC's leadership, I certainly have 100 reasons to doubt the claims & comments made by CT & TTG.
Don't you think so? I belief this site has other christian readers from other churches. If you think the CT/TTG is serving a good cause, do you like if some of them start a blog similar to CT called DUMC Today, FGA Today or SIB Today?
Friday, April 9, 2010
Try A Little Kindness
Before that, try a little experiment.
Write something really nice about Rev Prince Guneratnam, or the Board of Deacons, or the Associate Pastors, and then post it to the blog belonging to those who are not happy with Calvary Church.
Then, write something angry, or something bitter about the same group of people and post it up to the same blog.
We can assure you that none of the comments from the first attempt will get through!
The blog administrator will disapprove, or ignore every nice things you gotta say about Rev Prince Guneratnam and his team.
That is also the reason why the blog sounded a little angry and bitter, and it is reflecting as though nobody has any good things to say about the leadership of Calvary Church.
So, we are urging everyone to try a little kindness – pray for the church, and speak the Word of God to one another, and edify the body of Christ with one another.
Work towards the reconciliation of the body of Christ, and do not pass remarks that arouse anger and unforgiveness or bitterness to anyone – cuz those things are not the product of the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
Write something really nice about Rev Prince Guneratnam, or the Board of Deacons, or the Associate Pastors, and then post it to the blog belonging to those who are not happy with Calvary Church.
Then, write something angry, or something bitter about the same group of people and post it up to the same blog.
We can assure you that none of the comments from the first attempt will get through!
The blog administrator will disapprove, or ignore every nice things you gotta say about Rev Prince Guneratnam and his team.
That is also the reason why the blog sounded a little angry and bitter, and it is reflecting as though nobody has any good things to say about the leadership of Calvary Church.
So, we are urging everyone to try a little kindness – pray for the church, and speak the Word of God to one another, and edify the body of Christ with one another.
Work towards the reconciliation of the body of Christ, and do not pass remarks that arouse anger and unforgiveness or bitterness to anyone – cuz those things are not the product of the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
Let Us Pray Part 2
We urge the leadership of Calvary Church to pray together with your members. The problem is not negligible anymore. Your pews are not filled and your members are running way to other churches. You cannot deny that there exist a problem in the church and that all these while your problems are still neatly swept under the carpet.
By not dealing with the problem from the pulpit does not mean your members are not aware of it and it also does not mean they do not care any less. It also does not mean they are not affected by this whole entire boxing match. They have been frequently asked by others who are worshiping elsewhere what they are still doing in Calvary Church. They have been questioned by people everywhere and nobody seems to have any updates on the whole matter.
The silence is very deafening.
Do not stop praying for the CCC. Your church will stand behind you. Yet, do not leave them out from your decisions. They will pray for you, but just let them know WHAT to pray for. Sending “God bless the church” prayers to heaven goes nowhere. You are not covered with any intercession at all.
So, leaders of Calvary Church, if you are reading this, please, gather your members together. And pray.
By not dealing with the problem from the pulpit does not mean your members are not aware of it and it also does not mean they do not care any less. It also does not mean they are not affected by this whole entire boxing match. They have been frequently asked by others who are worshiping elsewhere what they are still doing in Calvary Church. They have been questioned by people everywhere and nobody seems to have any updates on the whole matter.
The silence is very deafening.
Do not stop praying for the CCC. Your church will stand behind you. Yet, do not leave them out from your decisions. They will pray for you, but just let them know WHAT to pray for. Sending “God bless the church” prayers to heaven goes nowhere. You are not covered with any intercession at all.
So, leaders of Calvary Church, if you are reading this, please, gather your members together. And pray.
Wednesday, April 7, 2010
THRILLA IN DAMANSARA!
Calvary Church has been in a boxing match for last few years. We are all wondering who will win. This fight is just like Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier’s fight in Manila in 70s. It was so great that HBO made a documentary of it called Thrilla in Manila. The fight was so close that no one knew who would win. If Eddie Futch, Joe’s trainer, did not stop the fight after round 14, who knows what would have happened? It was a real tough one. Everytime I think of that fight, I think of us today because that’s what Calvary Church is going through now! We just don’t know who is going to win. There are two sides in two corners of this boxing ring, and the boxers look like they are going to fall if someone doesn’t stop the fight. This is Thrilla in Damansara!
We members are praying for somebody to just stop this. What law case, now injuntion, etc etc, I fight you, you fight me goings-on are draining the church dry! When we read about our church in the newspapers, we don’t know what to think anymore. When our friends and families ask us what is going on, we don’t know how to answer anymore. Can someone please help us?
We are not against our leaders. But we wish they would talk to us more and tell us what on earth is happening? Can or not? Can you guys tells us what is going on? We don’t want to see in the papers, then only you come and make some announcement. That is not right. We would love to pray for our deacons and pastors more. We can see that you are going through tough times. Please can you let us in??
We also have friends in the ttg. They have been members for many years. Only in last few years we hear so much grumbling from them. Before that, we can remember some of them and Pastor G. were good friends. What happened? They tell us long stories about this and that...but we are thinking how come they took so long to find out...and what happened to the friendship? KO. (KO is not kopi-o... we are not starting a new group to challenge teh tarik. KO means knockout.)
Now they are going to resolve problems...you know how? Boxing match. More KOs coming.
Is that right? Before this year, we got shouting match in EGM. Terrible. But that was just the beginning! Last year, AGM went on for TWO days—more than TEN hours! (This year, I want to go home and sleep after 9pm. Some of my friends want to bring coffee and supper with them...they ta pao early, then come to church. Like this, I bring pillow) Worse, now take boxing match to law court, so everybody can see. Can Christians behave like this? Not that we like to suffer, but Jesus also suffered. He never pointed His fingers at anybody. His Body should be the same. We cannot act like the world. We must be different. If not, how can the world see that God is with us? How can they tell that we love one another as Christ loves us? We are like the body’s finger pinching the leg and saying “I hate you!” Or the body’s hand slapping its own face and saying “You are a liar!” We are crazy! We are blue black already! How much can we stand some more?
Look at our church. So many people have gone! Really, they have left and joined other churches. Now they serve there and God is blessing them. But then when we announce our AGM, they want to come back and vote! Crazy! But so many people have gone because of tears and bitter words...this is so, so sad...
I think we are already near Round 14 of our boxing match. I don’t know who will stop the fight if we keep going like this...maybe if God sees that we are going to drop dead, He will do something to save us. Maybe we should ask the church to do what the brother or sister wrote about praying all together. I heard one or two people talking about this, but nothing happened after that. Maybe we can ask for that. Let’s all come together to pray. We should seek God’s face first of all. We should go to Him and cry out to Him. If we don’t have Eddie Futch to help us, God will always help us because He promised He will not leave us or abandon us! LET’S ALL PRAY FOR OUR BELOVED CALVARY CHURCH!
We members are praying for somebody to just stop this. What law case, now injuntion, etc etc, I fight you, you fight me goings-on are draining the church dry! When we read about our church in the newspapers, we don’t know what to think anymore. When our friends and families ask us what is going on, we don’t know how to answer anymore. Can someone please help us?
We are not against our leaders. But we wish they would talk to us more and tell us what on earth is happening? Can or not? Can you guys tells us what is going on? We don’t want to see in the papers, then only you come and make some announcement. That is not right. We would love to pray for our deacons and pastors more. We can see that you are going through tough times. Please can you let us in??
We also have friends in the ttg. They have been members for many years. Only in last few years we hear so much grumbling from them. Before that, we can remember some of them and Pastor G. were good friends. What happened? They tell us long stories about this and that...but we are thinking how come they took so long to find out...and what happened to the friendship? KO. (KO is not kopi-o... we are not starting a new group to challenge teh tarik. KO means knockout.)
Now they are going to resolve problems...you know how? Boxing match. More KOs coming.
Is that right? Before this year, we got shouting match in EGM. Terrible. But that was just the beginning! Last year, AGM went on for TWO days—more than TEN hours! (This year, I want to go home and sleep after 9pm. Some of my friends want to bring coffee and supper with them...they ta pao early, then come to church. Like this, I bring pillow) Worse, now take boxing match to law court, so everybody can see. Can Christians behave like this? Not that we like to suffer, but Jesus also suffered. He never pointed His fingers at anybody. His Body should be the same. We cannot act like the world. We must be different. If not, how can the world see that God is with us? How can they tell that we love one another as Christ loves us? We are like the body’s finger pinching the leg and saying “I hate you!” Or the body’s hand slapping its own face and saying “You are a liar!” We are crazy! We are blue black already! How much can we stand some more?
Look at our church. So many people have gone! Really, they have left and joined other churches. Now they serve there and God is blessing them. But then when we announce our AGM, they want to come back and vote! Crazy! But so many people have gone because of tears and bitter words...this is so, so sad...
I think we are already near Round 14 of our boxing match. I don’t know who will stop the fight if we keep going like this...maybe if God sees that we are going to drop dead, He will do something to save us. Maybe we should ask the church to do what the brother or sister wrote about praying all together. I heard one or two people talking about this, but nothing happened after that. Maybe we can ask for that. Let’s all come together to pray. We should seek God’s face first of all. We should go to Him and cry out to Him. If we don’t have Eddie Futch to help us, God will always help us because He promised He will not leave us or abandon us! LET’S ALL PRAY FOR OUR BELOVED CALVARY CHURCH!
Let Us Pray
There were way too many “qualified” people making remarks such as “we should have …. “, “they should have….” or, “they should not have…..”
At coffee shops, online chats, MSN, or Skype, or at Murni SS2, or any other mamak stall, you see and hear people giving their opinions of what has happened to Calvary Church recently.
There were way too many people giving too many versions of what actually happened, but too few people who really want to go shake hands with one another and unite everybody together. Too many people think they know better, and too few people wanna do what is right.
One party shouting “they do not want to reconcile!!!” and the other party whispering, “we can’t make it to the appointment yet, but they do not want to wait for us to give them another date”.
To be frank we do not know what happened behind closed doors, but we do know that some facts are exaggerated by some parties, while other facts are hidden by some parties.
There were too much anger shared and spread, and too much unforgiveness and bitterness dividing the body of Christ. This caused many of us to think, “what happen to the message of the cross? Has it really been effective??” And this is an insult because our God is greater than all the problems faced by Calvary Church or anyone else at the moment!!
By now, there isn’t anymore who’s right and who’s wrong. Everyone who has passed some form of judgmental remarks at least once is guilty of spreading division to the church in one way or another. Is this truly God’s will??
Christ died for His church – which is His bride – and His body - and He does not need to do it again and again. Are we doing God a favour by passing some unkind remarks on some anonymous blogs? Do we really think that God approve our actions of pointing fingers at one another, screaming and shouting, “you’re wrong!!”
The silent majority – which we represent accurately – would want to see this whole saga comes to an end NOW, if not sooner. We do not need anymore Christian cowards (an obvious oxymoron) hiding behind some anonymous moniker and passing some ghostly divisive remarks for the whole world to read.
So, we appeal to members of the Body of Christ, to pray for healing for Calvary Church – on both sides of the divide. Neither should we see each other as “that side” or “this side”, or “support or oppose”, or “against or for” and etc etc!! We should all go down on our knees and plead God for His forgiveness because we have been unkind to one another.
You in the SCG department, you have moved out and moved on, do not teach others to backbite against Calvary Church and do not encourage anyone to leave the church!! That’s NOT your call!!
You who were once in the CW department! You have moved out and move on, so do not send out anymore emails stating how badly you have been used by the leaders! You were a blessing once, so be a blessing now, and do not build up bitterness in your heart anymore. Move on and smile! It’s NOT worth it!
You, who used to sing in the choir of God’s goodness, now don’t you dare sing of how you were a second class citizen in Calvary Church! God saw you and you had a first class citizenship in heaven, so rejoice for that fact!!!
And you who once served as a lifegroup leader, repent and do not mislead your (ex) lifegroup members by your divisive actions!
You in the communications department, DO NOT communicate negative remarks about Calvary Church to those in other churches. Calvary Church belongs to God and not to you. Why are you criticizing God’s work in Calvary Church? Can you do a better job than God? If not then shut up!!
You who were once a ministry leader and now serving as a leader in another church, stop and pause and have a good closure to your past. Do NOT bring your bitterness over to your new church! They are innocent! Repent.
To you who are reading this, please please pray for Calvary Church.
If you are a leader of Calvary Church and you are reading this, come on, organize a prayer meeting and plead heaven for forgiveness. There is no breakthrough in your causes because you have not prayed enough and you have not done enough. You have not mobilize your intercessors enough, and you have not seek God enough. Your members are not too well informed to pray enough for you.
Your members love you and they are united with you. Leverage on that! They will be more than happy to intercede and pray for you, but let them know what is happening. They may be sheep, but you are also a sheep yourself. So, let’s ask the Great Shepherd to help us. We need to get out from this mess. It is damaging us for far too long.
So, we ask you who are reading this, please pray. Either you support those who oppose the church, or you support the leadership of Calvary Church, it does not matter because you belong to the Body of Christ and it is your duty to pray for healing for Calvary Church.
Here are some prayer points to assist you. May you be led by the Holy Spirit to pray accordingly.
- Leadership of Calvary Church
- (ex)members and regular worshippers who have moved on
- existing members of Calvary Church
- brothers and sisters who have been genuinely hurt for carelessness on “both sides”
May God bless His church and may the church heal fast enough for a great major revival breakthrough in Malaysia!
Monday, April 5, 2010
Calvary One: Unity In One
Were you there at Calvary Church Easter sunrise service at the national stadium at Bukit Jalil? Did you see their performances? Their happy faces? Reflected their happy hearts?
If you are looking for some juicy news, we have some for you.
The Calvarites who served in the Good Friday and Sunday morning Easter sunrise services are very happy people!! No, they are not sad, neither were they angry at their Senior Pastor!
We have heard many people passing such remarks:-
“Mr Chan is still worshipping at Calvary Church. Poor dumb sheep, he doesn’t know what he is doing. He must be a pro-SP supporter. I pity him.”
“Ms Tan is not leaving Calvary Church. She is very blind. Those Calvarites do not know the truth and they are blinded to the truth.”
“Hey, I pity our friends who are still there. When are they ever going to grow spiritually and learn to see that SP is a wicked man?”
“I am disappointed with Mr Lim! He is such a disgrace! When I talk to him about the necessity to leave Calvary Church, he defended SP! How can??”
“We have left the music and creative arts department and the church altogether! We are waiting to see how it is going to collapse under the son-in-law’s leadership!!”
Guess what, they DO NOT need your pities and sympathies. This past weekend’s services said it all – they are happy people with very happy attitude and a very happy reason to celebrate a happy season!
They have chosen to suffer alongside their senior pastors and their church. Ask any members who were involved in the production, ask those who served breakfast, ask those who helped ushered guest, visitors and members, ask the car park attendant – you can see a great spirit of unity among them.
See the smiles on their faces! And hear them exchanging testimonies with one another! That is a true feeling of belonging, and certainly, they have chosen to stay with their church through tough times! They have God’s joy in them, and God’s joy has given them strength to go through times like these when their senior pastors have been badly bashed on the Internet.
They are certainly not blind nor sad people, and they are certainly sheep who are trusting the Jesus the Good Shepherd to lead them to the Promised Land. They are not perfect and they do not require our sympathy. They reflected a trusting heart in Jesus. God Himself will lead Calvary Church out from this storm!
Oh, some TTG supporters who signed the memorandum have confirmed with us that there are LESS THAN 100 signatures on the memorandum!! And you know, there are less than 80 people who turned up on that day to hand the memorandum to SP! What you see in the newspaper, is more or less, that’s about it!
No wonder the bible says in 1 Peter 5:8, “be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.”
Yeah, he roared like a roaring lion, but he is not a lion at all!
God bless you all and may we reflect the power of the resurrection in our lives!
(And stop all those babbling online! It reflects a dead cross!!!)
If you are looking for some juicy news, we have some for you.
The Calvarites who served in the Good Friday and Sunday morning Easter sunrise services are very happy people!! No, they are not sad, neither were they angry at their Senior Pastor!
We have heard many people passing such remarks:-
“Mr Chan is still worshipping at Calvary Church. Poor dumb sheep, he doesn’t know what he is doing. He must be a pro-SP supporter. I pity him.”
“Ms Tan is not leaving Calvary Church. She is very blind. Those Calvarites do not know the truth and they are blinded to the truth.”
“Hey, I pity our friends who are still there. When are they ever going to grow spiritually and learn to see that SP is a wicked man?”
“I am disappointed with Mr Lim! He is such a disgrace! When I talk to him about the necessity to leave Calvary Church, he defended SP! How can??”
“We have left the music and creative arts department and the church altogether! We are waiting to see how it is going to collapse under the son-in-law’s leadership!!”
Guess what, they DO NOT need your pities and sympathies. This past weekend’s services said it all – they are happy people with very happy attitude and a very happy reason to celebrate a happy season!
They have chosen to suffer alongside their senior pastors and their church. Ask any members who were involved in the production, ask those who served breakfast, ask those who helped ushered guest, visitors and members, ask the car park attendant – you can see a great spirit of unity among them.
See the smiles on their faces! And hear them exchanging testimonies with one another! That is a true feeling of belonging, and certainly, they have chosen to stay with their church through tough times! They have God’s joy in them, and God’s joy has given them strength to go through times like these when their senior pastors have been badly bashed on the Internet.
They are certainly not blind nor sad people, and they are certainly sheep who are trusting the Jesus the Good Shepherd to lead them to the Promised Land. They are not perfect and they do not require our sympathy. They reflected a trusting heart in Jesus. God Himself will lead Calvary Church out from this storm!
Oh, some TTG supporters who signed the memorandum have confirmed with us that there are LESS THAN 100 signatures on the memorandum!! And you know, there are less than 80 people who turned up on that day to hand the memorandum to SP! What you see in the newspaper, is more or less, that’s about it!
No wonder the bible says in 1 Peter 5:8, “be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.”
Yeah, he roared like a roaring lion, but he is not a lion at all!
God bless you all and may we reflect the power of the resurrection in our lives!
(And stop all those babbling online! It reflects a dead cross!!!)
“IF”
A little girl kneels beside her bed at night to say her goodnight prayers, “dear Lord Jesus, if I have offended mummy today for not waking up on time, please forgive me. If I have made daddy upset for refusing to brush my teeth, please forgive me also.”
Jesus’ respond to this little girl’s goodnight prayer, “IF? IF? Nahh little girl. You’re not sincere. I can’t forgive you”. (don’t you thank God that this is just fictional???!!)
A young teenage boy romanticizing his girlfriend, “dear, I will love you with all my life. Can’t wait to spend my life with you. If I have said anything, or may do anything that may make you unhappy, please forgive me?” Unfortunately, his girlfriend’s reply, “IF? What do you mean “IF”? You’re not sincere!! No, I am not going to forgive you! Let’s break up!!”
A secretary thanking her boss for a bonus she just received, “Boss, thank you for this blessing. The money will come in handy. If I have done anything that wasn’t right in the past year, please forgive me. I meant to do well.” Her boss’ reply, “IF? What do you mean “IF”? You’re not sincere enough! No, I am not going to forgive you. Hey, someone, please advertise for the position of a new secretary! This one is not sincere enough despite a bonus!!”
A businessman, waiting anxiously to clinch a deal that will bring a new breakthrough to his business, was asked to wait for the decision from one of his big time customer. The wait was agonizing. So, he prayed, “Father God, bless the business. It is Yours Oh Lord! If I have sin in my life, please forgive me. I do not know why I have to wait so long for their decision, but if I have done anything that is not right in their eyes and in Your eyes, please forgive me”. God’s respond, “IF? That’s not sincere enough! No I can’t forgive you”.
Let’s reverse the role a little bit.
A member of a church walking up to his priest and say, “father, thanks for praying for me last week. I just want to say sorry if I have done anything that may have offend you in the past few months. Please forgive me”. The father’s respond, “IF? You must show sincerity whenever you apologise. Because you did not show sincerity, I can’t forgive you”.
We thank God that all the above scenarios are just mere fictional! But this is the exact measure that Rev Prince Guneratnam had been judged last year when he made a public apology in their Sunday morning Easter service. His “IF… I have offended anyone” was discussed and analyzed at great length by some. And these people have judged the “no, we shall not forgive him” sentence on him. Worst, we read things like, “let’s youtube him!” and etc with regards to this. Isn’t this a very childish and un-Christlike act?
Didn’t Jesus forgive Peter prior to his three times denial?
Didn’t Jesus forgive Judas before the great betrayal took place?
Didn’t Jesus plead with the Father for forgiveness on the Roman soldiers even though the Roman soldiers did not say, “I am sorry”?
Didn’t Jesus forgive us all, even before we confess our sins and accept Him to be our Saviour, and saving us from eternal damnation?
So, what right do we have to say to Prince Guneratnam, “You used the word “IF” in your apology. So we cannot forgive you!”.
With the measure we judge others, with the same measure we will be judged also.
Here is what the Bible says about this, in a very serious tone.
1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth.3So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? 4Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?
5But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6God "will give to each person according to what he has done."[a] 7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.
Anyone who does not accept the public apology made by Rev Prince Guneratnam, but instead teaches others to do the same, is in a grave danger of facing God’s wrath.
So dear readers, IF we have written anything that may prick your hearts and arouse your anger, we are sorry, please forgive us.
The scripture above is taken from Romans 2:1-8.
Jesus’ respond to this little girl’s goodnight prayer, “IF? IF? Nahh little girl. You’re not sincere. I can’t forgive you”. (don’t you thank God that this is just fictional???!!)
A young teenage boy romanticizing his girlfriend, “dear, I will love you with all my life. Can’t wait to spend my life with you. If I have said anything, or may do anything that may make you unhappy, please forgive me?” Unfortunately, his girlfriend’s reply, “IF? What do you mean “IF”? You’re not sincere!! No, I am not going to forgive you! Let’s break up!!”
A secretary thanking her boss for a bonus she just received, “Boss, thank you for this blessing. The money will come in handy. If I have done anything that wasn’t right in the past year, please forgive me. I meant to do well.” Her boss’ reply, “IF? What do you mean “IF”? You’re not sincere enough! No, I am not going to forgive you. Hey, someone, please advertise for the position of a new secretary! This one is not sincere enough despite a bonus!!”
A businessman, waiting anxiously to clinch a deal that will bring a new breakthrough to his business, was asked to wait for the decision from one of his big time customer. The wait was agonizing. So, he prayed, “Father God, bless the business. It is Yours Oh Lord! If I have sin in my life, please forgive me. I do not know why I have to wait so long for their decision, but if I have done anything that is not right in their eyes and in Your eyes, please forgive me”. God’s respond, “IF? That’s not sincere enough! No I can’t forgive you”.
Let’s reverse the role a little bit.
A member of a church walking up to his priest and say, “father, thanks for praying for me last week. I just want to say sorry if I have done anything that may have offend you in the past few months. Please forgive me”. The father’s respond, “IF? You must show sincerity whenever you apologise. Because you did not show sincerity, I can’t forgive you”.
We thank God that all the above scenarios are just mere fictional! But this is the exact measure that Rev Prince Guneratnam had been judged last year when he made a public apology in their Sunday morning Easter service. His “IF… I have offended anyone” was discussed and analyzed at great length by some. And these people have judged the “no, we shall not forgive him” sentence on him. Worst, we read things like, “let’s youtube him!” and etc with regards to this. Isn’t this a very childish and un-Christlike act?
Didn’t Jesus forgive Peter prior to his three times denial?
Didn’t Jesus forgive Judas before the great betrayal took place?
Didn’t Jesus plead with the Father for forgiveness on the Roman soldiers even though the Roman soldiers did not say, “I am sorry”?
Didn’t Jesus forgive us all, even before we confess our sins and accept Him to be our Saviour, and saving us from eternal damnation?
So, what right do we have to say to Prince Guneratnam, “You used the word “IF” in your apology. So we cannot forgive you!”.
With the measure we judge others, with the same measure we will be judged also.
Here is what the Bible says about this, in a very serious tone.
1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based on truth.3So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment? 4Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?
5But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6God "will give to each person according to what he has done."[a] 7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. 8But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.
Anyone who does not accept the public apology made by Rev Prince Guneratnam, but instead teaches others to do the same, is in a grave danger of facing God’s wrath.
So dear readers, IF we have written anything that may prick your hearts and arouse your anger, we are sorry, please forgive us.
The scripture above is taken from Romans 2:1-8.
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